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#1 OOBER

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 11:06 PM

Well, this is the build thread for my new truck. It is still SFA so I guess I can still qualify for Other SFA Builds smile.gif

I TRADED THIS:

Crazyblaze Build Thread

The CraZyBlaZe was pretty much topped out unless I tore it totally apart again to go full buggy. To go wheeling anywhere near KC it is at least a 1.5 hour tow. Most of my friends had gotten out of wheeling/camping or moved away so it just wasn't as fun as it used to be.


One last hug frown.gif




FOR THIS (plus some extra parts):







Specs copied from his sale thread:
1971 Chevy short bed. nice truck but needs some paint and little body work to be super nice. Runs strong, motor and tranny have maybe 300 miles on it.

Dana 44 front, open 4.10
14 bolt ff rear, open 4.10
Turbo 400 custom built for motor and truck from phoenix transmission
Np 205
37"x14" iroks 99% tread
16x10 imitation welds

Engine started life as a 2 bolt 454. now solid roller 496
Bored .060" with torque plate
Decked
line honed
milodon splayed billet maincaps installed
Eagle 4340 forged 4.25 stroker crank
Eagle 4340 forged h-beams 6.385"
SRP forged pistons .230 dome 10.6 to 1 comp. ratio
File fit moly rings
King race bearings
Fully balanced to less than a gram
Milodon hv/hp oil pump
arp main and head studs
Howards solid roller cam and lifters 285/290, Lift .660/.675
Pro comp 320cc rectangle port aluminum heads
Fel pro mls head gasket
Stainless steal roller rockers
gear drive
heavy wall comp cams pushrods
edelbrock vic jr 454r intake
Pro form 950 race carb
Dynoed 565 hp @ 5500 585 ft/lb@ 4500
Made over 550 ft/lb from 3000 up
Hooker competition headers, dual 3" with flowmasters







If you look closely in the bed of the truck above, he included a complete chevy DRW D60. Also included was a full hydroboost unit.

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 11:06 PM

So that brings us to tonight, when we finally got home from Denver where we traded.

Pulled it off the trailer and took the wife for a ride around the block. The truck starts OKish but honestly runs like shit; hissing, popping, and backfiring throughout the whole ride around the neighborhood. You can tell deep down at it's heart it is a race quality engine, but everything that surrounds/connects to it pretty much needs redone. On a side note the tranny works well and shifts firmly, though it is missing the torque converter shroud.

Well, after getting back home I quickly discovered what I had gotten myself into. I didn't get a pic of the two spark plug wires that were burnt through, but I will let the pics do the talking.















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Posted 20 February 2011 - 11:07 PM





This is the one that scares me :eek:




Don't get me wrong, I am not dumb. I knew what I was getting into, but DAMN this is going to be a lot of work biggrin.gif

I want this to be a DO IT ALL vehicle. Reliable daily driver, drive down the highway, take it to mud drags, go to the dunes, and kill some mustangs (If I don't win the race I will just have to lock the hubs and run over them :flipoff2:)

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 11:41 PM

Awesome, short box 4x4s are somewhat rare.

And considering what your blazer was worth you stole that truck, no offense. Did you say you also got a D60 with it? Are you going to put it in the truck or off it? What are your plans lift wise? I have a K20 longbox myself that I plan lifting about 6", but I'm going to use 64" rear leafs from the 99-06 2500. For the front I'm going to try and do my first four link/coil setup. I want the truck to have have good road manners, pull the camper of car trailer, and be able to play on the dunes or Moab.



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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:35 AM

QUOTE (N2O_ZR2 @ Feb 20 2011, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Awesome, short box 4x4s are somewhat rare.

And considering what your blazer was worth you stole that truck, no offense. Did you say you also got a D60 with it? Are you going to put it in the truck or off it? What are your plans lift wise? I have a K20 longbox myself that I plan lifting about 6", but I'm going to use 64" rear leafs from the 99-06 2500. For the front I'm going to try and do my first four link/coil setup. I want the truck to have have good road manners, pull the camper of car trailer, and be able to play on the dunes or Moab.


popcorn.gif i are not dumb. I knew that any more efforts on the blazer are in vain because it wouldn't ever be worth any more and there isn't really a market for already built rigs. Nobody has the money to plop down on them in one chunk.

It is actually a 71 C10 cab and bed on a 73 K10(?) frame. The body mounts are like a custom built body lift to accomodate the different cab. It is not the most beautiful but not sketchy by any means. I will have to get some pics later. This is also the reason the tank is under the rear of the frame and not in the cab.


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Issues:
Engine needs tuning and all new spark plug wires
None of the dash lights work
The turn signals have a mind of their own
The brakes suck
The steering wheel can move 1/4 turn without doing anything
all of the doors/door handles are essentially non-operational
The radio doesn't work (not that it matters, you wouldn't hear it over the engine :smokin:)
The seat is only bolted down on one side :confused:
There are enough electrical gremlins to keep me busy for years :shaking:
It's LOUD!!!!! Kinda cool at first, but for it to be multipurpose, it is doing to have to be tamed significantly.


The initial plans:
Get the engine running right
Clean it, top to bottom (this will make a HUGE difference in itself)
Fix all of the door handles so I can freaking get in and out like a normal person without reaching through the window.
Disk brake the 14 bolt
Drive it.....a lot.....

Later Plans:
...I don't want to give away all my secrets readit.gif


It will be a pretty slow build on a small budget and not a lot of time after life,work, and my masters. I will be building everything myself when possible/feasible.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:07 AM

good luck with build

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:43 AM

Yikes. That's a hell of a rats nest. I hate cleaning up after other peoples wiring disasters... you've certainly got your work cut out.

Looks to be one badass truck when you get it all done.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:52 AM

QUOTE (OOBER @ Feb 21 2011, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is actually a 71 C10 cab and bed on a 73 K10(?) frame. The body mounts are like a custom built body lift to accomodate the different cab. It is not the most beautiful but not sketchy by any means. I will have to get some pics later. This is also the reason the tank is under the rear of the frame and not in the cab.

If you get a 4x4 floor hump you can eliminate that, from the sounds of it, homemade body lift. The 4x4 hump bolts on so all you have to do is cut the old one out and bolt in the replacement. And the tank should also clear since alot of 2wd guys are swapping them in. LMC actually sells a gas tank kit to have the tank in the rear between the frame rails. You will have firewall clearance with the big block with out a body lift so it would need to be reworked a little. Or you can keep the body lift and disregard my ramblings lol.gif .



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Posted 21 February 2011 - 02:29 PM

Congrats! drinkbuds.gif

One of my favorite style chevys!

Good luck with it.



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Posted 21 February 2011 - 02:44 PM

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One of my favorite style chevys!



X2 nice looking trucking looking forward to watching the build.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 04:36 PM

I read the whole crazyblaze thread back in the summer and have followed it since, I like the part where you got an axle from up here in Red Granite back in 2008, lol. I am sad to see it go but I know you will have fun with the new truck and I too am anxious to follow another one of your excellent builds! Good luck with everything!

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 05:18 PM

I have a gas tank that came out of a 60s ford behind the seat. Not sure if it will bolt up to in the same place a chevy one will. Its solid and worked great when I used it, i cleaned it out and nothing bad came out. With sendind unit, iM not sure if you would want it.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 06:50 PM

I dont know what your plan is but.. look like it might will be way easier if you just start all of the wiring from scratch and do it nicely and maybe try to find a way or two to reduce wires for more clean-ness.

I'd love to have project like that! I find it simplier than a strict off-road rig! thumup.gif

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:55 AM

Well, I got some time to work on it yesterday and fixed a lot of problems.

1. There was 1 ground wire from the alternator bracket to the battery. It now has 3. Frame to Engine, Engine to Batt, and Body to Batt.

2. The thumb handle on the drivers door handle was missing. I ran down to LMC Truck since it is 10 minutes away (:smokin:) and bought a whole new handle kit for 30 bux.

3. I put clips on all of the window cranks and inner door handles so they don't fall off every time I close the door (35cents each)

4. Got the radio working. There was a separate wire going from the radio to the battery that was laying in the fender. All I did was hook it up.

5. Installed a quick disconnect on my battery. This way it wont burn to the ground in the driveway and take my house with it.......

Put new windshield wipers on. Normally I wouldn't include a picture of something this mundane but I was impressed.


Took the seat out after removing the 1 bolt that was holding it in :eek:


After power washing it




The radio is partially functional now. Everything works until you turn it up over 1/3 volume then the amp cuts out. Wonder if this has something to do with the custom ground wire :confused:


Bonus wires:




I need some help from you guys with the carb. It currently has a Proform 950 on it with no choke or provision for a choke. I haven't tried THAT hard, but it has been 30's-40's out lately and this thing refuses to start.

Has this carb on it: http://www.proformpa...category_id/181

So my question is, I want to put a "more normal" carb on this thing so it will freakin start without a team of people. I have been looking at street avenger 870's. Would this one work well, or is there something that would be more suited to my application like a truck avenger. Problem is the biggest truck avenger is a 770 CFM if I remember correctly.

This carb: http://www.holley.co...SA_IntoZOOM.jpg

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:57 PM

Does it kick over with ether?

I always hear about issues when guys are plopping on too large a carb, which sounds like what you've got.

Can you give me a (realistic) hp estimate? I've got a smart feller with heavy carb experience I plan on asking. He put a 454 in his (originally equipped v6) Monte Carlo (first car when he turned 16). He just stepped into fuel injection last year.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 07:55 PM

Wow, serious rat's nest of wiring there.



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Posted 28 February 2011 - 08:22 PM

QUOTE (cknaffle @ Feb 28 2011, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, serious rat's nest of wiring there.


I need to post up some pictures of a few of the storm chasing vehicles I've seen over the years. I learned early on the importance of clean wiring... I've seen some MUCH worse than that.

That being said, I hate dealing with wiring nightmares.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 05:28 PM

Hey Oob, as far as carbs go, sounds like a 950 might be too much for that motor. a formula I have used in the past for selecting proper cfm that gets you in the ballpark is CID/2*RPM/1728=CFM so for you that comes out to 861.11 cfm if you put in 6000 for the max rpm. granted this formula seems to be really rough and some engines it is dead off but I would guess you'd be fine with an 850 or 870. A lot of it will come down to vacuum and other things like cam, rear end gearing and rpm range etc.. remember, more cam, lower max rpm, vacuum advance distributors, auto trans, low rear gears and heavier vehicles all require less carb than their opposites.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 09:28 PM


I love cutting out old wires. I run into that sort of thing all the time with construction equipment, It crazy some of the stuff I have found. One had a coat hanger wrapped in electrical tape as a hot wire from the battery to the starter. lol.gif



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Posted 04 March 2011 - 09:18 AM

QUOTE (Crusty @ Mar 3 2011, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love cutting out old wires. I run into that sort of thing all the time with construction equipment, It crazy some of the stuff I have found. One had a coat hanger wrapped in electrical tape as a hot wire from the battery to the starter. lol.gif


Haha, I haven't seen anything that bad yet but it wouldn't surprise me.




AHA! I figgured out why it wouldn't start......and now I feel really stupid.

Cliffnotes: After trying to start it for a while I went and grabbed the other set of keys with the fob to the alarm that I didn't think worked. Hit disarm, and sure enough it started right up craztbeat.gif Wish I would have thought of that a couple days ago.

I knew it would happen sooner or later, but she already bled all over the driveway......



Short video


Still has some issues and a tick that I haven't figured out yet, but otherwise runs like hell pimp.gif





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