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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 3,257 Joined: 19-October 06 From: Sioux Falls, South Dakota Member No.: 2,594 |
I've been working on an official tire review thread for a few weeks, whenever I have spare time and I've compiled a bunch of tires from Long Trails to Boggers. Below each tire there might be a comment from users on the forum telling of thier experience with the tire on thier particular vehicle.
Anything i missed let me know so i can keep on top of it. We have about 48 tires total, I'll be adding size availabilities and some links with trucks that have that tire on them in the very far future :lol: I'll do what I can. Any Comments? Here We Go: Interco Tires: Bogger (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/intercoBogger.jpg) "Super Swamper Bogger is the most aggressive tire we know of for light trucks. These tires are most at home in the mud but have proven themselves in rocks, too. We’ve seen more than a few drivers with Boggers claw their way up a rocky hill using the sidewall lugs as much as the tread. Flexibility is not the Bogger’s strong suit, but aggressive traction is. Built primarily for the professional mud bogger. The tire is versatile... D.O.T. approved and street legal... easy to modify for the cut, open, and pro stock classes. A new design for a new generation of competition performance." IROK (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/IntercoIROK.jpg) Many years of experience have gone into the IROK to develop a tire with traction ‘as good as it gets’ in mud, snow and rock climbing. It has a directional tread in the famous Three Stage Lug design, scooped lugs, blade and molded siping, special sidewall features, extra tough cord and cut resistant compounds in a super traction package always. LTB (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/intercoLTB.jpg) The Super Swamper LTBs are in the same basic Three Stage Lug design as the famous Super Swamper TSL's but a little more aggressive. The large lug is offset more to the outside which gives the tire superb traction. It is in bias ply construction which allows for the more aggressive lugs and very strong sidewalls to better resist the rigors of hard off-roading. The bias construction reduces the chances of sidewall splitting when run off road at low air pressure. There are seven sizes available….sizes which are not available in the regular TSL line. Narrow S.S. (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/intercoNarrowss.jpg) Designed primarily for light trucks such as Toyotas and Jeeps. Also great for Duallys in tire combinations such as 9/34-16 paired in the rear and 13/33-16's in front or 34x9.50-16.5 paired in the rear and 33x12.50-16.5's in front. SSR (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/SSR2.jpg) The SSR Series of Super Swamper Radial/TSL tires is the next generation of light truck radial tires. This series has many of the OEM sizes for Sport Utility Vehicles and 4 Wheel Drive light trucks who do not want to modify their vehicles but still need the performance of Super Swampers. The design incorporates a slightly tighter tread pattern, siping for wet pavement traction and icy conditions, greater sidewall protection with traction features and is quieter running. Super Swamper TSL (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/intercoTSL.jpg) The Super Swamper TSL with the patented TSL tread design offers unsurpassed traction under the toughest of conditions. Nine years of developing and testing produced the ultimate tire tread design. Short, intermediate and long massive lugs are uniquely arranged, each proportioned and spaced to bite quickly and to self-clean rapidly. The overall design gives today's on-and-off-road driver a tire that is both directionally and laterally stable; unmatched in performance. This is an extremely aggressive design that requires strict attention to air pressure when run on the highway. TrXus All Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/IntercoTrXusAllTerrain.jpg) The TrXus STS All Terrain tire is one of the more interesting looking All terrain tires on the market. Similar looking in design to the Super Swamper Bogger with its 3 stage lug design of lateral lugs running from sidewall to sidewall. Working off of proven, patented designs of Intercos other tires, the TrXus STS All Terrain uses design features such as a 3 stage lug design, a three stage lug sidewall (STS), a stepped lug design enhancing the release of debris from the tread, incorporated sipes in the large lateral lugs, and deep grooved pattern designed to channel mud, sand and water out from the tread. Contrary to its appearance The TrXus STS is not a Mud Terrain tire and in fact does not perform all that well in mud or snow for that matter with its tight tread design. Rocks are also not this All Terrain tire's best terrain for the same "tight tread" reasons. One of the strong points of this tire is sand where it gets excellent floatation and decent forward bite from its Bogger-like paddles. On the street this tire has some minor noise but not an excessive amount as to be expected for an All Terrain tire. The TrXus STS is available in both Radial and Bias Ply with sizes ranging from 29" up to 38" with plys ranging 6 or 8 in the Radials and 6 or 10 in the Bias plys, model dependent. TrXus MT / STS (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/intercoTrXusMT.jpg) The NEW TrXus Mud Terrain is INTERCO'S answer to the need of those who want a smooth, super quiet ride with tough, thick sidewalls with a chip and cut resistant compound. This tire has more siping than any other mud terrain on the market; which has proven to be almost magical in icy snowy conditions. These same traction features make this tire a serious rock climber. NOTE: Each TrXus Mud Terrain tire has its individual specifications and is heavier than the original equipment tires of comparable size. Many brands of tires are made from generic specifications which means there are many "brand names" coming out of a particular factory but all the tires have a common specification basic body or casing. The only difference is the mold the tire is cured in. The tires will have different tread designs but the body of the tire is common to many others of the same size but under various names. Tsl / SX (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/intercosx.jpg) The Super Swamper TSL/SX was designed for extremely tough off road conditions where sidewall strength and protection is needed to withstand the severe scuffing from running in ruts and snagging roots and rocks. This tire has a strong nylon or polyester bias ply body with dual belts under the tread and wrap-a-round lugs. The sidewall lugs not only protect the sidewall but also provide extra traction when climbing out of ruts. Tsl / Thornbird (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/intercothornbird.jpg) The inset shows why the Interco TSL/THORNBIRD is such a Versatile tire. The highway contact area in the illustration shows the tread on hard surfaces. The Three Stage Lugs on the sidewalls do not touch highway surfaces but as soon as the tire gets into mud or snow the sidewall lugs provide decisive traction in forward or reverse. Fiberglass belts under the tread and polyester body plies contribute to a really smooth comfortable ride. The design comes close to being two tires in one... a revolutionary design that has earned its place in the legendary ranks of Super Performance. SHOVEL: "Thornbirds are the worst tire in all of creation and I hope the designer has found a less challenging career like cooking french fries" This post has been edited by SpeedoBulgeGroper: Jan 31 2008, 09:21 AM |
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Aug 3 2007, 08:34 PM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 3,257 Joined: 19-October 06 From: Sioux Falls, South Dakota Member No.: 2,594 |
BFGoodrich: Long Trail T/A (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/bfglongtrail.jpg) Exceptional dry traction and control; minimal highway noise, Excellent wet and snow traction; high mileage , Superb traction and control; precise steering response; good bruise and puncture resistance, High speed durability and stable handling, High strength and durability; smooth ride; meets challenging light truck performance requirements, Great durability; long lasting, Absorbs road shock, helps resist flat spotting and controls sidewall flex for smooth ride, Looks great on today’s hottest trucks by Chevrolet, Ford, Nissan and others Kevin S - Heres what i can add to the BFG Long Trail TA----- THEY SUCK. All Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/bfgallterrain.jpg) This was designed from the ground up to offer more traction in rocks than the previous All-Terrain. The tread blocks are designed to flex and clean out light snow and mud, but deep, thick goo will defeat this tire just as it will every other all-terrain tread. Nmband13 - The best A/T tire on the market today, incredible tread life, excellent on street, snow, wet pavement, gravel, dirt. Great in shallow mud (6in or less) Does really well on ice too. GrizzlyZr2 - The BFG All-terrians was great on my old truck (2wd reg cab S10) I never got stuck like it was with the stockers, and it held onto the road much better in ice and snow. They really throw the mud up. Had good on road traction wet and dry. Thick enough mud would fill them though, they're a good all around tire but serious off roading probably would be best done with another tire. Mud Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/bfgmudterrain.jpg) BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A is a longtime standard in the off-road community. This tire is known for its toughness on the trail and its all-around versatility. For even more puncture resistance BFGoodrich offers the Baja T/A, but its heavy construction limits its flexibility for rockcrawling. Only downside is that if you like to burn out a few times a week, these tires will melt not burn/smoke like regular tires do. Nmband13 - By far the best M/T tire out there, incredible in mud, excellect on rock and trails, good on street and snow. If you're looking for a M/T tire and still want great tread life on the street then this is the tire for you. Krawler (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/bfgkrawler-notkm2.jpg) Large, deep lugs – even deeper than Mud-Terrain T/A®KM help provide exceptional traction in rock, mud and dirt. Tread can be carved to tune performance to meet the specific needs of the consumer, One of the highest puncture resistant sidewalls of any tire we’ve ever offered, A super-tough carcass built like some of our off-road racing tires. The lessons we learn in off-road racing are built right into the Krawler T/A®KX, Deep, large and solid sidewall lugs aid both traction and puncture resistance, Softer tread compound evolved from our years of off-roading experience. Conforms better to uneven surfaces, increases traction, Improved wheel and tire protection from off-road hazards, especially during aired-down situations KM2 (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/bfgkm2.jpg) Due to be released for wheel sizes 18-20in late '07, 15in & 16in early '08. KM DT? (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/km2maybe.jpg) Found at Tirerack It says its the KM DT model, is this a new bfg m/t thats unannounced? Notice on the tire it doesn't have the km2 stamped on the side. But it does say its only made for a 22in wheel, does this mean this tread design is only available in a 22in wheel? I'd like to have this tread on my Zr2 instead of the km2, imo Tirerack Quote:
Baja T/A (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/bfgbaja.jpg) Excellent off-road soft surface traction; more tread element edges, great side bite and lateral traction in off-road situations, Superb tread area puncture/bruise resistance; confident high-speed performance and handling, Strong lower sidewall; precise steering response and predictable cornering, Exceptional strength, bruise resistance and structural integrity; great strength and puncture resistance in the sidewall, Excellent cutting and chunking resistance; high durability, Distinctive appearance with black-outline serrated letters and unique Baja T/A® insignia This post has been edited by nmband13: Aug 7 2007, 08:52 AM |
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Aug 3 2007, 08:35 PM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 3,257 Joined: 19-October 06 From: Sioux Falls, South Dakota Member No.: 2,594 |
Mickey Thompson:
MTZ (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/mickeythompsonmtz.jpg) While this is not the most aggressive MT tire on the market, it is an aggressive Mud Terrain radial constructed with 3-ply sidewalls and 6-ply tread making this tire as tough as they come. Self-cleaning high-void lugs and enhanced Sidebiters® give this tire exceptional traction in mud and snow. It is an excellent choice for those who need an offroad Mud Tire that works well on the street with little compromise offroad. Baja Crusher (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/MickeyThompsonBajaCrusher.jpg) As the latest in the line of high quality off-road Mickey Thompson tires, the all new Mickey Thompson Baja Crusher delivers aggressive off-road performance combined with on road reliability, the likes of which have never been seen before. Featuring a unique tread pattern, the patented PowerPly 3-Ply sidewalls, and Skull and Cross Bone SideBiters for extreme off-road traction, new Mickey Thompson Baja Crusher tires are as dependable for everyday use as they are fiercely intimidating in rough terrain. Baja Claw (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/mickeythompsonbajaclaw.jpg) Mickey Thompson Baja Claw Radial is a relatively new offering. The tread on these tires looks a lot like that of some of the bigger agriculture tires you’ll see on the farm. This tire has proven a little weak in the sidewall for serious rock running, but is good for most other conditions. For rock pounding you can also get a bias-ply Baja Claw. Super-wide Baja Claws are available for added flotation in the sand. Bridgestone: All Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/BridgestoneAT.jpg) The Dueler A/T REVO with UNI-T AQII Technology was developed to meet the needs of pickup truck and sport utility vehicle drivers who drive their vehicle both on and off the road. The Dueler A/T REVO is Bridgestone's first Off-Road All-Terrain light truck tire in America to feature UNI-T AQII Technology. It uses an advanced compound and construction features that enhance and preserve wet traction throughout the tire's life to better handle wet road conditions. Mud Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/BridgestoneMT.jpg) The Bridgestone Dueler M/T has what it takes to conquer just about every type of terrain imaginable. For serious off-road performance, the Dueler M/T offers ferocious off-traction and durability. Extra large and deep (16/32" to 18/32") tread delivers rugged traction even in the worst conditions. the continuous contact center tread blocks optimize the ride quality and keep tread noise to a minimum for the level of traction offered. The sidewall protector rib gives added protection against off-road hazards. The Dueler M/T is available in LT-Metric and flotation fitments to meet the demands of the serious off-road vehicle owner. The sleek styling features your choice of raised outline white letters or serrated black letters. The Dueler M/T also carries Bridgestone's 30-Day Buy & Try Guarantee. Procomp: All Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/ProcompAllTerrain.jpg) Pro Comp's All Terrain advanced tread technology encompasses elliptical full depth siping patterns throughout the tread and interlocking shoulder lugs which provide extra biting edges for excellent all weather traction. A tread pattern so advanced it also allows for superior gripping power in snow conditions giving the A/T its severe weather rating. Mud Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/ProcompMudTerrain.jpg) "Tread Design and Overall Diameter and Width, Twin Rib Siping Center Traction Zone Dual Compound Tread and Sidewall Rubber, 3 Lug Shoulder Design, Alternating Shoulder Lug Treatment, Polyester Body Ply's, Double Steel Belting" Xtreme (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/ProcompXtremeMudTerrain.jpg) New from Pro Comp for 2007 is the Pro Comp Xtreme Mud Terrain tire. Built off of the successful principles of the ProComp Mud Terrain, the Xtreme MT is a great combination of off-road performance and durability in a variety of terrain while still maintaining a quiet road noise level. With improvement over the Pro Comp Mud Terrain, the Xtreme Mud Terrain tire adds more aggressive shoulder lugs and a triple-ply carcass to provide even better off-road traction and protection against sidewall damage. Xterrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/ProcompXterrainMudTerrain-1.jpg) The Procomp Xterrain is a radial MT (mud terrain) tire that offers a 3 ply sidewall which is said to be thicker and more puncture resistant that some other popular radial tires on the market. The Pro Comp Xterrain's main feature is an aggressive, deep, wide void tread design that uses a directional, staggered pattern that is made to channel mud and debris out and away from the center of the tire. The tread of the Xterrains uses what Procomp refers to as the XTC or Extreme Traction Compound. This compound is said to allow maximum puncture and tear resistance while maintaining the flexibility and stability necessary when running at low air pressures. The sideways are designed to be extra durable utilizing up to 3 plys of polyester, while the tread uses 1 ply of nylon, 2 steel and 3 plys of polyester. General: General Grabber (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/GeneralGrabber-1.jpg) A decent Mud Terrain tire for the price. That about sums it up for the General Grabber. The General Grabber MT is General Tire's solution to the offroad market for what they call "extremely difficult terrain". While we don't consider the General Grabber to be an "extreme" mud terrain tire when compared to the Mud Terrain tires on the market, it does hold it's own in off-road applications. The General Grabber MT is very similar to the average MT tire on the market in looks and performance. In the mud, it does decent while the tread is above it's half life. It's not the best in mud but a little better than average. This post has been edited by nmband13: Aug 9 2007, 08:00 PM |
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 3,257 Joined: 19-October 06 From: Sioux Falls, South Dakota Member No.: 2,594 |
Goodyear:
Wrangler HP (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/goodyearwranglerHP.jpg) Wrangler HP are designed for great on-road ride, with very little noise and a long tread life. While the manufacturer claims that it is an “excellent choice for on- and off-road traction,” this is really just an all-season tire for inclement weather or occasional light trail use. The sidewalls on tires like this are lightly constructed for smooth road ride and are more susceptible to damage than a true truck tire would be. Wrangler GSA (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/goodyearGSA.jpg) Goodyear Wrangler GSA tire is Goodyear’s attempt to make one tire for every condition. The triple tread works surprisingly well on the trail; its light-truck carcass has proven to be durable everywhere but in sharp rocks. The idea was to have a hefty, squared-off inside shoulder for traction in rain and snow on- and off-road, a deep wide-groove center tread for good tracking stability and improved wet handling, and a thick rounded outer tread for improved cornering and shoulder life. AT/S (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/goodyearAT-S.jpg) Goodyear AT/S all-terrain tire. This tire boasts twin traction lug channels that act as water channels for wet weather driving as well as helping to clear the tire of mud and snow. This tire offers good traction in all but the deepest mud. MT/R (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/goodyearmtr.jpg) Goodyear MT/R is the final step in trail traction. This aggressive tread is computer-designed to be quieter than the old MT; it’s still loud in comparison to the other Goodyear light-truck radials. This tire can be expected to provide good traction in all conditions but ice. In deep mud the tread clears itself quickly when spun-up. The sidewall is equipped with what Goodyear calls Durawall technology, which involves use of three sidewall plys and a silica compound for increased puncture resistance in the rocks. Firestone: Destination All Terrain - coming soon - Transforce All Terrain - coming soon - Mud Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/FirestoneMT-1.jpg) The Firestone Destination M/T, introduced to the marketplace last fall by Bridgestone/Firestone North American Tire, LLC (BFNT), is a full traction-depth tire featuring UNI-T® technology for excellent wet and mud handling. The tire features a square footprint and heavy-duty construction to protect it in the most extreme terrains, and has a high void to help clear debris from the tread. Parnelli Jones: (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/ParnelliJones.jpg) Parnelli Jones Dirt Grip is a new tire that features a wide-open tread design with sipes in the tread blocks. The sipes should provide some tread flexibility to help the tire clean and cling better than tires without them. Kumho: All Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/KumhoRoadVentureAT.jpg) The Kumho Road Venture AT is an All-Terrain light truck tire designed to combine off-road traction with on-road quality handling and ride characteristics. The Road Venture AT KL-41 is available in Load Range C, D and E sizes and was developed to meet the needs of heavy-duty commercial pickup trucks and sport utility vehicle drivers who desire highway treadwear along with off-road and snow traction. Mud Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/KumhoRoadVentureMT.jpg) The latest in KUMHO technology has created a true mud terrain tire with great street manners and very low noise levels. The Road Venture MT KL71 is the perfect choice for the street bound 4X4 that wants the ultra aggressive look of an off road tire with large rim diameters. At home in mild or wild off road conditions, from tame gravel roads to deep mud, the Road Venture MT KL71 provides excellent off road traction. This post has been edited by nmband13: Aug 9 2007, 08:03 PM |
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 3,257 Joined: 19-October 06 From: Sioux Falls, South Dakota Member No.: 2,594 |
Yokohama:
Geolander MT (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/YokohamaGeolanderMT.jpg) Yokohama’s Geolandar MT is a very flexible tire with a softer-than-average tread compound. These tires have a chevron-type tread pattern. The center should clear water in the rain as well as provide good lateral stability. MAXXIS: Buckshot Mudders (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/MAXXISBuckshot.jpg) They are reminiscent of the industrial mud tires of old. These tires are tall, narrow, and aggressive on their shoulders, with two center tread bars. Tires like this tend to wear well and work fine in deep mud but are usually short on traction in the rocks and sand. This is due to the limited number of traction surfaces and the stiffer construction of these tires. Trepador (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/MAXXISTrepador.jpg) A Street monster. That's the first thing that comes to mind with this Mud Terrain Radial. The Maxxis Trepador is an aggressive, rugged, durable radial ply tire designed for extreme conditions and yet still perform well on the road. This is a great tire for someone looking for an aggressive weekend Mud Terrain that will commute to work Monday morning. Like its biased ply cousin the Creepy Crawler, the aggressive tread pattern of the Trepador is made up of massive horizontally siped, lugs separated by deep self-cleaning voids. The tread pattern differs from the Creepy Crawler in that the direction tread pattern is designed to channel water way from the center, which also works well offroad, channeling mud away from the center of the tire. Its street performance is assisted greatly by the network of sipes running through all lugs that make contact with the road surface. Creepy Crawler (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/MaxxisCreepyCrawler.jpg) The Creepy Crawler is an aggressive, rugged, durable bias ply tire designed for extreme conditions. Maxxis has taken the knowledge of 30 years experience and put it into what makes up the M-8090. A picture just doesn't do this tire justice. See this tire up close and you know it is a rock-climbing beast. The aggressive tread pattern of the Creepy Crawler is made up of massive horizontally siped, stepped lugs separated by deep self-cleaning voids. The staggered groove patterns and shoulder lugs maximize lateral traction. Maxxis specially designed a compound for this tire that is soft and flexible yet resists gouging while remaining strong. All this translates into excellent worry free grip in extreme rock crawling. One of the more immediately impressive qualities of the Creepy Crawler is the wrap around tread design that creates excellent armored protection to the sidewall and additional bite in deep mud... not to mention an extremely aggressive appearance. While the Creepy Crawler is street legal, it does present a higher level of road noise and due to its bias ply construction, is not the best handling tire of daily driving. Cooper: All Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/CooperAT.jpg) The Discoverer S/T is Cooper’s premium all-purpose SUV/light truck traction tire that is a hybrid of three designs – all-terrain, high void and commercial traction. The Discoverer S/T fits a wide range of SUVs and light trucks up to 1 ton, but it is especially suitable for high-powered, high-torque light trucks where optimum wear and traction are required. Cooper has a multi-layered steel cord belt and an extra rubber layer fitted between the belts to absorb more impact and reduce damage. Straight Sidewall design also deflects objects and reduces damage. Mud Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/CooperMT.jpg) The Discoverer STT is Cooper’s premium high void off-road light truck traction tire designed for drivers who want the best in off-road traction. The Discoverer STT’s aggressive tread design extends far down the sidewall of the tire to enhance its soft surface traction and also provide additional “bite” in rock climbing application. An integral stone ejector rib extends down from the center lugs to the buttress blocks to help prevent stones and debris from lodging between the tread elements while contributing to the overall soft surface traction. The Discoverer STT’s computer designed, non-directional tread employs a combination of features including deep buttress lugs, notched and scalloped shoulder lugs, and a unique center traction zone to create a bold, aggressive tire for tough off-road applications. Three ply constructed. Dick Cepek: F-C-II (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/DickCepekF-C-II.jpg) With it’s Unique “Hybrid” design between an All-Terrain and Mud Terrain, the F-C II has proven to be one tough tire in any terrain! Now Available in a Wide Selection of Traditional and Specialty Light Truck Sizes for almost any on or off-road application. Stylish Outlined White Letter (OWL) and Black (BLK) Sidewall designs. Mud Country (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/DickCepekMudCountry.jpg) The Dick Cepek Mud Country Radial Mud Terrain tire is another of the newer tires that has evolved from earlier proven designs to take performance to the next level. One of the key elements of the Dick Cepek Mud Country is the high void stepped lug design of it's entire lug pattern. With the wide voids between each stepped lug, traction will be improved in a variety of conditions, most notable in the mud as the stepped design helps to release the mud with self cleaning rather than allow it to pack it in between the lugs. Each lug also incorporates sipes to improve traction on the rocks, in mud, in snow and on wet paved road. Triple Ply Sidewalls and a sidewall design offers moderate protection with a "DC" design that both protects from rocks as well as aids traction in deeper mud. Crusher (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/DickCepekCrusher.jpg) Dick Cepek Crusher delivers aggressive off-road performance combined with on road reliability, the likes of which have never been seen before. Featuring a unique tread pattern, the patented PowerPly 3-Ply sidewalls, and Skull and Cross Bone SideBiters for extreme off-road traction, new Dick Cepek Crusher tires are as dependable for everyday use as they are fiercely intimidating in rough terrain. Dunlop: Mud Rover (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/DunlopMudRover.jpg) The Dunlop Radial Mud Rover is kind of your "middle of the road" mud tire that does "ok" in various conditions. Its lugs offer decent mud traction with the help of large voids spaced out enough to assist with the self cleaning of mud and debris. Aired down the sidewalls flex good however are quite thin and vulnerable with a low ply rating and a lack of wrap around tread. In snow and sand this tire does about average when compare to other mud terrain tires. This post has been edited by nmband13: Aug 9 2007, 08:12 PM |
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 3,257 Joined: 19-October 06 From: Sioux Falls, South Dakota Member No.: 2,594 |
Pit Bull:
Growler All Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/PitBullGrowlerAllTerrain.jpg) In the world of "All Terrain" tires, the Pitbull Growler is not your ordinary all terrain tire. In fact this tire is better classified as a mud terrain (MT) rather than an all terrain (AT). Its not until you compare the Growler to the other dogs in the litter, Pitbull's Rocker and the Maddog, does it even resemble a toned down all terrain. The Pitbull Growler definitely has an advantage over other all terrain tires in its design elements. So much so that if you are shopping for a set of all terrains, consider these to be mud terrain tires. Bias ply mud terrain tires. Once you get past the classification of these tires, you'll find that they really do demand respect, in any class. Their aggressive, semi-directional tread design and the tough 6 and 8 ply, bias construction allows them to excel in just about every type of terrain, whether its mud, rocks, sand, wooded trails or even snow. MADDOG Mud Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/PitBullMADDOGMudTerrain.jpg) When we looked at the tread of the Maddog, the one thing we saw that was a striking feature was the variety of design of the tread lugs. Most Mud Terrain tires on the market have a repeating pattern that may change slightly from lug to lug, however the Pit Bull Maddog has lugs following lugs that are completely different than the previous lug with a repeating pattern several lugs away. Why? The immediate thought is for the looks but we think its a design approach that is geared towards the dynamics of the mud itself. Our theory is with a changing pattern, the tire tread will tend to move mud in a random, churning manner where each lug does something different to the mud below. The effect would essentially be if one lug design didn't move you, try another design. Rocker Extreme (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/PitbullRockerExtreme.jpg) The Pit Bull Rocker is a Bias Ply tire. Offroad the Bias Ply tires will typically out perform their radial counterpart in the area of toughness hands down. The Pit Bull Rocker is built for the extreme terrain with a 6 and 8 ply rating size dependent. Airing these tires down to the single digits will allow them to flex well when broken in. The tread gives them an advantage in rocky terrain with a sharp, random-like tread pattern that reaches down the sidewalls offering protection deep into the sidewall. When aired way down the tire bulge will place the sidewall tread where you need the traction and the aggressive sidewall lugs will assist with excellent traction. The rubber compound of these tires is harder than some other MT tires on the market and thus will last longer in harsh conditions. Toyo: Open Country Mud Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/ToyoOpenCountryMudTerrain.jpg) Toyo recently introduced its newest tire, the Toyo Open Country Mud Terrain (M/T) radial. While this tire isn't the traditional hardcore rockcrawling or extreme mud tire; it will survive the toughest backcountry challenges and perform well. The targeted market for the Open Country is those who need a comfortable, quiet, well mannered daily driven Mud Terrain tire that works as a weekend warrior on moderate to tough terrain, tackling serious trails. Nitto: Terra Grappler (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/NittoTerraGrappler.jpg) Terra Grappler is an All Terrain tire, the latest offering from Nitto Tires specifically designed for light trucks and SUVs. With introduction of the Terra Grappler All Terrain tire, Nitto Tire expands its extreme performance tire line-up to encompass your off-pavement needs while maintaining superior on pavement ride and handling. Mud Grappler (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/NittoMudGrappler.jpg) The Nitto Mud Grappler extreme terrain is somewhat different in appearance than most Mud Terrain tires. The Mud Grappler has sort of a reptilian scaled, random lug, computer generated, appearance to its tread design making it stand out in the crowd of mud terrain tires on the market. The lateral tread design with deep voids, wide, siped lugs does improve offroad performance. Mud, sand and rock are some of the terrains where the Mud Grappler excels with paddle-like lugs to propel the vehicle through the terrain. Sidewalls are well protected by large ,very unique sidewall lugs in its tread design that also give the Nitto Mud Grappler an impressive profile appearance that we like. On the road the Mud Grappler does produce some lug slap, giving them a nice hum going down the road that will complement the aggressive look as you pass by. Handling is said to be decent with construction design engineered to perform well on-road as well as offroad. The Nitto is one of the more expensive Mud Terrain tires on the market with a limited size availability. Dune Grappler (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/NittoDuneGrappler.jpg) Offroad in it's element the Dune Grappler does very well. Make no mistake though, this tire is specifically built for sand and not mud. In sand it's reported by those who have tested these tires, that they handle well, getting a moderate amount non-directional bite in sandy zones. On the rocks, even though they are designed to take a beating with their three ply polyester high turn up construction which would improve bruise and puncture resistance, they don't flex well enough to offer good grip on rocks. In the mud, they are on the low side of average when compared to typical All Terrain tires and quickly clog with mud in the voids. But again, these are tires specifically designed to perform in desert conditions. On the street, the do surprisingly well with strong cornering performance and decent grip in dry conditions as well as a quiet ride. However their lack of sipes reduces their wet surface performance. Hankook:[/color] Dynapro Mud Terrain (IMG:http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/nmband13/tires/Tire/HankookDynaproMT.jpg) The Hankook Dynapro MT is a little above a "middle of the road" mud tire that does decent in various conditions. Its lugs offer good mud traction with the help of large voids spaced out enough to assist with the self cleaning of mud and debris. Aired down the sidewalls flex good and are somewhat protected by a little extra rubber compound on across it's sidewalls. Sources: www.tirerack.com www.intercotire.com www.google.com www.offroaders.com This post has been edited by nmband13: Aug 9 2007, 08:27 PM |
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Aug 3 2007, 10:00 PM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 1,042 Joined: 6-June 05 From: Fort Bragg, North Carolina Member No.: 799 |
Wow. That's a pretty good job there.
Now all you have to do is find a picture of a Z with each of the tires on in the sizes stock through 33'. :D |
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Aug 3 2007, 10:59 PM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 5,437 Joined: 4-July 05 From: Kennewick,Washington Member No.: 831 |
Gonna add Cooper?
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Aug 4 2007, 12:13 AM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 2,548 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Arizona Member No.: 4,348 |
Rad! I'm going to post short opinions on each of the tires i've personally owned and have relevant off-road experience with, in case you want to supplement 'em. BTW, if you do happen to use them I'll delete this post in order to remove clutter/redundancy.
SHOVEL: "Thornbirds are the worst tire in all of creation. Require over a pound to balance each 33", zero slickrock, snow, or mud traction... the "Side biters" do work but only because the rest of the tire has no traction" SHOVEL: "BF Goodrich A/T TA's are one of the nicest all-around tires I've used, and I consider them the definitive Arizona tire. Exceptional traction and life on pavement, dry and wet rocks, snow, great flotation and steering response in deep sand, tolerable mud performance, and highly conformal when aired down. A little loud for an A/T. " SHOVEL: "Yokohama Geolander M/T's are very, VERY sticky tires and they don't seem to chip at all. They don't slide sideways like Baja Claws. "Soupy" on-road, and very short tread life. Less loud than BFG M/T's. " SHOVEL: "General Grabber M/T is very light, offers good braking and steering response on-road. Long tread life for a full fledged M/T, and airs down well. Took very little weight to balance. Scary on wet pavement or wet rocks. SHOVEL: "Mickey Thompson Baja Claw (bias) - These have a split personality. Run 'em points-forward and they're animals in the mud, but will slide you sideways off any smooth rocky incline... run 'em points-backward and it's exactly the opposite. Good balance for a bias, only a couple oz each. Longish tread life. Loud as hell" SHOVEL: "Wal Mart brand Super Sport HT mud tires were dirt cheap, and very quiet when aired up to 35psi. Got about 30,000 miles out of 'em, never ripped a sidewall. A little less directional authority than I would have liked in mud, but overall these surprised me with their value" SHOVEL: "Interco Swamper LTB pizza cutters are loud, "soupy" handling, hard to balance... but they did last almost 25,000 miles and WORK on rocks. They dig like shovels (sic) on sand or snow, not advisable for those conditions. Do NOT go 80+ mph" SHOVEL: "BFG Radial Long Trail - I only have a little experience with these. Very quiet on-road, a little skittish on dry pavement when aired up to 35psi. Highly conformal at 18-20psi, perform like any generic AT in sandy mud. So far no chips or cuts on AZ rocks, and if their current state is any indication this is a 60,000 mile tire" I've owned a few other types of off-roadable tires but can't really think of anything relevant about 'em. If it matters, my wheeling style is "expedition style" where finesse and preserving the equipment are what I strive for - so my experience will be dramatically different than yours if you race, or use a lot of go-pedal, or other such stuff. I have also only used light trucks (2 monteros, 2 troopers, a bronco2, and now a zr2) so fullsize/weight drivers may have other experiences too. This post has been edited by shovel: Aug 6 2007, 12:50 PM |
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Aug 4 2007, 12:26 AM
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"Yer Keviness" (aka n00b Admin) ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 6,385 Joined: 11-November 06 From: Holland MI / East Lansing for school (MSU) Member No.: 2,751 |
Not bad at all. I like it.
Definately a good start im sure we can add other stuff too, such as cooper, Dick Cepek, etc. One thing that would make it a lot easier to read is if the pictures are all the same size. Although you said you were working on it. Heres what i can add to the BFG Long Trail TA----- THEY SUCK. :D |
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Aug 4 2007, 02:07 PM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 3,257 Joined: 19-October 06 From: Sioux Falls, South Dakota Member No.: 2,594 |
i agree with what everyone has posted, i'll add your comments along with pics of s10/blazer2's below the wheel via a link, i'd say this is only 30% done. i know i have a few other titres that have to be added.
i have pictures of the tires blacked out so its not chunks of white around them also i spent an hour detailing a pic of the bfg KM2, its sexy :SBG: :hitit: :jester: There updated pics and comments from users posted so far... now to get it stickified from an admin hopefully... :o This post has been edited by nmband13: Aug 4 2007, 09:55 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 05:30 AM
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![]() Group: ZR2 Owner Posts: 414 Joined: 29-May 07 From: Ammon Idaho Member No.: 4,045 |
Awesome thread, always hard picking a tire. The dealership seemed to have this problem with my truck, they put brand new ROAD tires on a ZR2.
The BFG All-terrians was great on my old truck (2wd reg cab S10) I never got stuck like it was with the stockers, and it held onto the road much better in ice and snow. They really throw the mud up. Had good on road traction wet and dry. Thick enough mud would fill them though, they're a good all around tire but serious off roading probably would be best done with another tire. This post has been edited by GrizzlyZR2: Aug 5 2007, 05:44 AM |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:22 PM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 327 Joined: 5-January 07 From: Munising Michigan Member No.: 3,081 |
awesome! nice to have all this info but i have a question... what about the master craft courcers? they are EVERYWHERE around here especially the C/T and they are (or appear to be) insane on my friends s10. also the A/T are around a little too. Im personally thinkin about the M/T for next summer in a 32 x 11.5 or if i get daring and wanna do a BL or trim like mad 33 x 11.5 or 12.5. just wondering what you guys think, plus they are really cheap tires and seem good to me but i have no experience there :D
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Aug 6 2007, 01:23 PM
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Typing...and still waiting. ![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 1,443 Joined: 2-April 07 From: Enterprise, Alabama Member No.: 3,690 |
I own the Pro Comp xtreme mud terrains and I love them. They are a great tire. I have had them in mud,sand,and on rocks. They are especially good at self cleaning. and perform well when deflated to about 10PSI for rocks.
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Aug 15 2007, 06:31 PM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 2,477 Joined: 22-October 06 From: Kokomo, IN Member No.: 2,608 |
Firestone Destination M/T: Using these tires on my daily driver I was impressed with the level of comfort and low noise at speed. Dry road traction and stability was improved from the factory installed General tires. Wet road traction and stability was reduced significantly but was corrected with grooving the tread blocks, expect similar results with siping.
Offroad, THESE TIRES KICK ASS, plain and simple. I noticed immediately that these tires start to clean out at almost a roll, excess throttle not needed. When the hammer is laid down, these tires act as if they are tractor tires, incredible grip. 31X10.50R15 (IMG:http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o168/shawnzr2/DSC04038.jpg) Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ: Overall, I am very happy with these tires, the tread is somewhat closer together for a mud type tire but still has the large voids needed for the mud. Onroad traction wet and dry is good, stability is just as factory ride, road noise is almost nonexistent. Tread wear after 6000 miles is excellent. Offroad traction is good, doesnt provide best traction in the mud but in the dusty/sandy conditions they really shine. I have noticed cleaning the tires does require some throttle input and speed, overall a very good "do anything well" tire. 33X12.50R17 (IMG:http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o168/shawnzr2/Badlands%204-22-07/DSC04149.jpg) |
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Aug 15 2007, 11:55 PM
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What?!? I can't hear you! ![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 5,912 Joined: 31-December 06 From: Darien, Illinois or "Chicago Suburbs" Member No.: 3,044 |
im with him! also im running his tire right now :P got to add, i want to say something about super sport radical (IMG:http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/TrailTamer_photos/Sidekickpictures2108.jpg) (IMG:http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/TrailTamer_photos/Sidekickpictures2111.jpg) i had it mounted to a 86' K10 with stock wheel and the size is 33x12.50 R15 imo they're AWESOME for off roadin but i often find myself struggling to get move around when i got lift up on the axles (tire off the ground) :judaspriest: . but for on road they're LOUD that what im know of. i got new ones and they got cupped so badly even after just 4k miles. :( so i just try to get most out of them by just using the way is (yes driving in highway was horrible) IMO they dont have good on road manner when its wet, i once almost dive into a ditch by not able to slow down and make a turn. but when its dry, it grips very good! :) |
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Sep 1 2007, 06:48 PM
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![]() Group: ZR2 Owner Posts: 25 Joined: 8-July 07 Member No.: 4,260 |
go to offroaders.com, its a jeep website but they have a good tire review section
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Sep 12 2007, 10:32 PM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 1,830 Joined: 2-February 06 From: Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina Member No.: 1,148 |
great thread. ill post up when i get done with my Definity Dakota A/T's from Pep Boys. there is a lot of skepticism of PB tires and service. They look very similar to the BFG A/T's that typically come stock on the Z.
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Oct 21 2007, 03:04 PM
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![]() Group: ZR2 Owner Posts: 177 Joined: 23-October 06 Member No.: 2,620 |
Here's the Continental Sportiva A/T's that came on it when I bought it with 65K on it and now has 110K. Not much left of them but a fairly good A/T never let me down in the snow and ice but the mud it lacks in.
(IMG:http://www.kcsseries.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_100_2265.jpg) (IMG:http://www.kcsseries.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_100_2266.jpg) Steam Rollers? (IMG:http://www.kcsseries.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_100_2295.jpg) I just ordered a set of the Hankook Dynapro M/T's Friday from Discount tires for $496 for four and free shipping. Looking forward to getting my ball joints, shackles and tires done this month. (EDIT) Tires came today! Can't wait to "review" them. (IMG:http://www.kcsseries.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_100_2314.jpg) (IMG:http://www.kcsseries.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_100_2311.jpg) (IMG:http://www.kcsseries.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_100_2310.jpg) (IMG:http://www.kcsseries.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/normal_100_2308.jpg) This post has been edited by 10man: Oct 24 2007, 08:44 PM |
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Dec 17 2007, 08:10 AM
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![]() Group: Subscribed ZR2 Owner Posts: 2,477 Joined: 22-October 06 From: Kokomo, IN Member No.: 2,608 |
Indiana finally got some snow to speak of so I can review the MTZ's fully. To be honest I was quite hopeful for these tires even though they are 12.5 wide, I was expecting good snow traction. Sadly these tires re only marginally better than an A/T in the loose snow, excess throttle cleans them out and provides some grip. On the hard pack snow, these tire rate right up there with SUCK. I realize M/T are not designed for the slippery stuff, but after running the Firestone Destination M/T's last winter and now the Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ's this year, it almost feels as if its not in 4wd. Forward stability is only a thought in your mind, they follow every groove in the snow, and with any throttle, the whole truck will start to slide some (4 wheel drift). I never had the chance to groove the tires like the Firestones so there is alot of potential for the MTZ's, just not in stock form :(
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